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Run Forest! Run!!!.....the execs of Chrysler could never understand what the CEO of Maserati just described.....
LOL whoa, chill out. News Alert; the platform is also used by Mercedes for the E class and is one of the best platforms in the industry. The engine is built by Ferrari and surely that technology will trickle down throughout the Fiat companies. The navigation is from Jeep. The switchgear is from Chrysler.All right. Apologies for the ranting, but it's getting more difficult with each bit of questionable news regarding the Ghibli or Maserati itself. I've just read a review reporting that the Ghibli's current platform will serve as the platform for the next gen Chrysler 300. In other words when you buy a Ghibli you are buying the Chrysler 300 of tomorrow. Yep, too close to crap for my nose, see ya Chryslerati, as much as I don't want to I'm going back to the Germans. At least BMW doesn't defecate where it eats.
Close, but no cigar.
Over and out.
Platform sharing is pretty common occurrence these days and every make is consolidating to achieve economies of scale (Vws toureg platform is used to build cayennes for instance). This allows manufacturers to focus on meat and potatoes of the car rather then spending billions on developing a brand new chassis for each model. It allows them to focus on engine, suspension etc... If Maserati was building this thing from scratch it wouldn't be able to offer the base car at 65k. Furthermore it looks like the Maserati tech will end up being used by Chrysler and not the other way around which means it's a win-win for Chrysler/Maser. Bottom line is if you think BMW is a better car because it uses everything that's built in house you,d be surprised how many components of BMWs are actually not made by them: ex : tranny built by zf. Wheels are bbs, etc etc.All right. Apologies for the ranting, but it's getting more difficult with each bit of questionable news regarding the Ghibli or Maserati itself. I've just read a review reporting that the Ghibli's current platform will serve as the platform for the next gen Chrysler 300. In other words when you buy a Ghibli you are buying the Chrysler 300 of tomorrow. Yep, too close to crap for my nose, see ya Chryslerati, as much as I don't want to I'm going back to the Germans. At least BMW doesn't defecate where it eats.
Close, but no cigar.
Over and out.
Thank you and goodbye.I'm fully aware of the relationship with Bentley and VW etc. This is different, this is Chrysler for fucksake, all the "sharing" with that vile company, the shithead execs, the parts, the technology distribution. Chrysler is poison and Maserati appears to be drinking it deeply. The Chrysler infotainment and switchgear I could swallow, albeit whilst holding my nose. But the executive shakeup in NA and the announced total technology transfer, including the Ghibli's engine, to the UAW shitshow that is the Chrysler 300. Well that's too much to ask; the closest I'm willing to get to a Ghibli now is when I'll visit the dealer to get my deposit back.
Watch this video at around 5 min the CEO explains the extent of chryslers involvement etc. pretty detailed response IMO.I'm fully aware of the relationship with Bentley and VW etc. This is different, this is Chrysler forfucksake, all the "sharing" with that vile company, the shithead execs, the parts, the technology distribution. Chrysler is poison and Maserati appears to be drinking it deeply. The Chrysler infotainment and switchgear I could swallow, albeit whilst holding my nose. But the executive shakeup in NA and the announced total technology transfer, including the Ghibli's engine, to the UAW shitshow that is the Chrysler 300. Well that's too much to ask; the closest I'm willing to get to a ghibli now is when I'll visit the dealer to get my deposit back.
Both Charger and 300 are set to be replaced in the 2017-2020 timeframe by new cars based on the Maserati Ghibli. The Ghibli was described to us as an LX with all the Mercedes gear removed, though it is more complicated than that; the engine bay was reduced in space since there is no V8 option, and while the rear suspension seems very similar to that of the 300C, the front suspension double-wishbone design was modified from the Mercedes-style to a Maserati-style setup. The next generation large cars from Chrysler will probably use many of the Ghibli’s changes.
Wasn't news to me. I had read more recently about additional ghibli tech, such as the v6, that future Chrysler models may be acquiring...I didn't think the fact that there's platform sharing in the Ghibli is news to anyone
Actually that Mercedes chassis you're referring to is from the mid 90's E Class and has since been moved on from by Mercedes by about 3 generations. Even the new E Class chassis isn't all that great and is highly non-dynamic so you wouldn't want a Maserati sharing it.LOL whoa, chill out. News Alert; the platform is also used by Mercedes for the E class and is one of the best platforms in the industry. The engine is built by Ferrari and surely that technology will trickle down throughout the Fiat companies. The navigation is from Jeep. The switchgear is from Chrysler.
Are you really just understanding this all now? Are you not aware this is common in the auto industry? How about a Bentley that uses VW parts? How about a Rolls that uses BMW parts? BMW is not NEARLY as pure as you think. In fact, the switchgear that comes from Chrysler, really comes from a independent parts manufacturer, of which, there are about 3 of them that EVERY car company uses.
With that said, if you feel BMW is the best in class then don't let anyone stop you. However, I would read the professional reviews before you do so. The new 5 series was just rated in last place in the class compared to Audi, Mercedes and Cadillac. BMW is NOT the same company building amazing cars they did 5 to 10 years ago.
Well actually if Maserati is successful with their goal to go bigger via the Ghibli I imagine at some point it will stop being "exotic". That's sort of what happened to BMW - the reason I traded by BMW for the Ghibli is that I got tired of confusing my car for all the other cars in the parking lot whenever I returned to the airport after a business trip!I hope for the best in that regard because I think the Ghibli if executed right will be something the market has been desperately seeking. An exotic that is more emotion>function but still functional enough to live with day to day and that doesn't cost too much more than its more common German competitors.
I love my BMW and think that the current BMW design language in its sort of sensual yet aggressive yet understatedness is the perfect formula in terms of keeping that distinctive "premium" aura on the roads, yet making it palatable to see over and over again without getting tiresome (Mercedes on the other hand I feel is doing the opposite, making designs that tire quickly as you keep seeing them). Also I appreciate how BMW charge a premium for the M Sport Package as enthusiasts like myself can pay up for it, knowingly a high-margin option, for the sake of some differentiation on the roads.Well actually if Maserati is successful with their goal to go bigger via the Ghibli I imagine at some point it will stop being "exotic". That's sort of what happened to BMW - the reason I traded by BMW for the Ghibli is that I got tired of confusing my car for all the other cars in the parking lot whenever I returned to the airport after a business trip!