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Morning all
Apologies in advance for the negative element to this post.

I've owned my lovely 2015 Ghibli S for 18months with mo issues whatsoever ever . She has purred since day one with only a few minor radio issues but other than that it's a dream drive as you all know.

The only issue I would ever really complain about would be the northwest england maserati dealerships who are a little obtuse ,,, not rude but not helpful either .

On that note. I attempted to leave for work at 5am this morning , fired up the beast only to have her turn off within 2 seconds.

Odd , ok must be cold I'll fire her up again going through the usual resetting the ignition system etc.

Again same symptom, hmmmm she turned over fired fine, no rough idle no back fire just normal then died again (not a sputtering stall just a turn off)

Right this cant be good let's try a 3rd try.

This time turns over but doesnt fire up....

I'm guessing fueling issue but being so early and now late for work had to abandon the car and steal the wifes God awful mini club man.

I'm now away all day until the dark hours and it's also the weekend so no mechanics about.

Before I start down the path of sending her into a garage that will literally rape my wallet due to the trident being rolled into the shop, has anyone else had this issue?

Any advice welcome and gratefully appreciated.


With luck I'll be offering more positive advice in return very soon .

Andy
 

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Mine did similar a couple of weeks ago but while driving. Got it recovered, and found a fuel pressure issue. Recovery mechanic asked if it had any fuel in it, said yes, an 1/8 of a tank and it says 50 miles of range..... He put 5 litres in and hey presto it fired up.
 

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Thanks so much for the advice. I've spent the day with my diagnostic tool and have some codes that were thrown up.

U0129 . Lost comms with brake system control module

2 x UO101 Lost comms with TCM

I'm hoping it's just a battery issue as it was cold during that week of heavy rain in cheshire. However I have checked my fuel status and it's at 55miles so maybe a top up may resolve .

Fingers crossed but i hold little hope. I'm surprised if its battery as it's a daily drive and clears 80miles a day but who knows.

I'll keep people posted. Trying to gather as much info as possible to help anyone in the futue.

Cheers for the advice. Update again tomorrow
 

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Do you have a battery charger?

I would add some high octane 93 grade fuel or better so you don’t have a low fuel warning and make sure you have a good battery and try again.

Brake and TCM Codes are pretty strange to occur at at the same time unless you went mudding or some in your Ghibli.


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Nitro, thanks for the reply. Funny you should say that we've had major flooding in north England and I had to pass through a number of large puddles on the way home from work . Charger is on and going to throw some more high grade fuel l in her later .

Will post out come. Cheers for the advice as always . .
 

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Nitro,, as a second thought your comment on going through mud with the car may throw up both codes, why would this be?

I'm just trying to rule out all issues as I go through my fault finding? I drove through the large puddle three days prior to the non starting issue and elapsed 100miles plus post event but maybe there is something in that theory.
 

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Nitro,, as a second thought your comment on going through mud with the car may throw up both codes, why would this be?

I'm just trying to rule out all issues as I go through my fault finding? I drove through the large puddle three days prior to the non starting issue and elapsed 100miles plus post event but maybe there is something in that theory.

Sorry for troubles Andy..
Any update after tender and fresh fuel?
 

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*UPDATE*

Added 25litres of 97 octane fuel best I can get uk side. It's what I run her on anyway .

Charged her all night and day . Left this morning and was at 13V which hopefully should be perfect by the time I get home this evening.

I have spoken to maserati dealer . Tbh they were great very helpful , I explained the problem and they believe it's a battery issue .... I'm not convinced but hey im no mechanic.

As an update to my own investigations I sat in her last night and noticed that the 3 second buzzing noise wasnt there ( from experience I believe this is the fuel pump, I may be wrong)

To that end if she doesnt start later this evening I have mobile mechanic coming Monday,, hes not a maserati specialist but often works on lambo and Ferrari.

To add more pain to the situation. The steering lock is engaged so recovery is not an option. Maserati informed me that it wont release unless engine is running and was halted on 17plate models for that reason.

Time will tell . Fingers crossed.

Cheers for the help guys it is greatly appreciated.

I'll update as soon as I get home
Andy
 

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Well just got home....... no joy. She turns over as normal with all gizmos working as they should . Just no fire up. Turns over nice and fast but nothing after.

I'm convinced it's a fuel issue. Now it's time to track down the correct fuses. Relay etc. 100% cant hear the fuel pump when I get in from a full unlock. Who knows. I will keep you all updated. All info and resolutions along the the way illl post.

Fingers crossed . Again!
 

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Haven't had mine long enough to look for access, can you get a fuel pressure tester on it?

You can get one for $25 or $30, or AutoZone and the like may loan them out.
 

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Cleared the pending codes. Then tried to fire her up again. Codes reappeared. There are no permanent codes so these do clear but clearing them has no impact.

??

Thanks for the help. I'll keep you all posted. Hopefully going through this will help another owner out if the situation arises in the future

Andy
 

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Right
Gentleman and ladies out there, I'm slowly eliminating the possible causes or faults.
*battery 14V .
*plugs checked
*fuel topped up with 20l 97octane
*key fobs all good battery wise
*all fuses checked
*filters and air intakes dry as a bone
*MAF no signs of damage

She cranks over sweet but just no fire!! .


So next on the list can I ask a favour . When you get in the car do you normally hear the fuel pump fire up before engine start

I dont hear a thing just the vents moving when switched to run.

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When you flick the car to run but not fire up does your immobiliser light on the dash go out as mine continuously flashes. Hmmmm me thinks a possible immobilisor issue maybe.

I cant recover the car either as it's in an awkward position and cant release steering lock to re manoeuvre onto low loader . This part i have to call idiotic on Maserati part. They have since removed this feature on 17 plate + models

As always appreciate all the help . Advice or abuse

Andy
 

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Haven't had mine long enough to look for access, can you get a fuel pressure tester on it?

You can get one for $25 or $30, or AutoZone and the like may loan them out.
Fuel pressure tester. Theres a thought. I have a mechanic coming monday as that beyond my skill level. Thanks for the heads up
 

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Hi Andy,
I've been thumbing thru some similar threads here and the other Maser forum.

Tmw morning, perhaps try this:

1. Unlock Ghibli and sit in driver seat. Do not start or Acc.

2. With both feet on brake pedal, press hard 3 times for 5 seconds each.

3. Repeat step 2 after touching the Start button to enter Acc mode.
Do not start car.

4. Exit car & Lock it.
Walk away and re-lock with key fob.

5. Move back 75 - 100 feet and proceed away until the car no longer reacts to your key fob lock button presses.

6. Have Tea.. ?

7. Approach car to 20 feet with key fob but do not enter.

8. Use key fob to perform Remote Start Procedure.
(Use Google or Youtube in advance if unfamiliar)

9. Of the dozens of QP/Ghibli "my car won't start" posts I see, this Immobiliser Reset is one to attempt.

Gnite mate and We're all pulling for you I'm sure..
 

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Mikey. Thankyou in advance for the advice. Fingers crossed this gives me some good news. I'm currently at work and will try this method as soon as I get home tonight. .

Unfortunatly i dont have remote start on the lady over here in blighty. But will attempt a amended process.

You never know it may just work .


Cheers guys as always. Were slowly narrowing it down bolt by bolt.
 

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I think you have an electrical gremlin.

The fuel pump should run and the symptoms certainly sound like no fuel pressure, this would be where I start. Get a cheap multi meter, start at the fuse box.
Find the fuel pump fuse, check for power. You'll have to go through the start procedure. If power is there it's not you imob.
If power check again at the fuel pump end, trickier but would eliminate a damaged wire etc. I had a boot issue which was the harness rubbing the boot hinge and rubbed through. If there's still power it looks like a dead fuel pump. If it's finally not running!

How far from Lincoln are you?
 

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Unfortunatly I'm in cheshire so a fair old distance if only I was a little closer I'm getting on the phone to maserati this morning to see if they have anymore insight before mechanic arrives monday pm.

Lock 100% didn't disengage when flicked to run yesterday without engine running I'm with you on the fuel pump though. Im just slowly trying to eliminate all avenues before mechanic arrives .

As always thankyou it's very much appreciated and looking at her in the gorgeous sunshine this morning only made me more frustrated.

Thanks

Andy

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More investigations. ... having spoke to a Maserati specialist (shall remain unnamed by request) I've been told to unplug all the leads from the BCU one by one in a specific order to hard reset the system. This is with battery fitted.

I have to get the carpet in the front foot well up which is a challenge in itself but on with the adventure.

I'm sure your all bored of this thread by now and I can only apologise
I just hope to document the full fault finding and issues faced. Along the way.

Maserati man also said if the fuel sender is busted then it's a rear seat removal so that will be fun!!!

My only real concern moving forward is that if you have an engine failure on this car of this year, will the steering lock ?? If so that could be catastrophic as we all drive these machines as intended .doesnt warrant thinking about ?? Time will tell.
 

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Thanks for keeping us updated. Wishing you luck and hope that it ends up being something cheap and easy to fix.

Do you recall when your steering lock engaged? I only recall it engaging when you try to turn the wheel too much with the car off. I ran out of gas last year in my '14 and my engine shutoff at freeway speeds and I was able to safely switch lanes and exit the freeway without issue including turning the wheel quite a bit to get it a safe distance off the road. The steering was obviously very heavy but it worked without locking up.
 
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